An In Depth Look At Townhomes In Atlanta

This is Day 198 of the Slow Home Project and we need you to join us in our quest to evaluate the design quality of houses in nine North American cities in nine months.

It’s Thursday, August 5, 2010 and today we are doing an “In Detail” segment focusing on entry design in townhouses. All the examples we have pulled are from the Atlanta area.

Entry spaces are a real design problem in townhouses. Most townhouses have very poorly designed entries that is usually results because developers do not provide enough room on the ground floor for both the garage and a decent sized entry space.

As you remember from the What’s Wrong With This House? book, in a Slow Home, an entry is a space, not just a door, has a coat closet and can accommodate several people at the same time. You also have to consider the entry space from the front door as well as how you enter the house from the garage.

We need you to post floor plans of both good and bad entry spaces that you have come across in the Atlanta area as well as your comments about what makes a good and bad entry. We look forward to today’s discussion!

When you are ready, click on the player below to watch John and Matthew’s tutorial on what makes a good and bad entry space.

To see the examples from the tutorial in more detail, click on the links below.

1. This is a good main floor entry in a town house. The access to the front door is in a shared space with the access to the single car garage, there is a coat closet, enough room to greet guests and it is efficient that it is also combined with the powder room.

2. This is a good second floor entry space. Note the coat closet and how it is consolidated with the circulation and stair space as well as the powder room.

3. This is a poor main floor entry with a double garage – the garage takes up all the room on the ground floor and only leaves enough width for a single door. The back entry from the garage has no storage.

4. This is also a poor ground floor entry. The door from the garage collides with the front door swing, plus there is an additional door from the garage to the house into the “flex room” but still has no storage.

5. This is a badly designed second floor entry – there is actually no space – it is just a door – with the door opening directly into the living room.

6. This is also a very poor second floor entry – the designer has tried to create a space by installing some “faux” columns – but has basically just created an awkward element – and again, there is no storage.

7. Finally, this is a shame because there is enough room for a well designed entry space in this plan, but the angled stair, door collisions and ill defined access to the “bonus” room do not fulfill the Slow Home entry criteria. If only the designer here followed the principals on our site!

Join us tomorrow, for our Friday wrap up with our posting of the best Design Projects from Wednesday, our vote for who you think should win the Slow Home Award for the best townhouse designs in Atlanta and our announcement of the Slow Homer of the week!

  • Franco

    Matthew, I must admit I too had a hard time finding decent entries for townhomes in the Atlanta area…

    I found this unit, the Lanier at Laurel Creek by Ashton Woods Homes
    http://www.ashtonwoodshomes.com/modelDetail.php?ID=8575&PlanID=1998&communityID=423&parentCity=2&rep_emial=

    I like that the entry is off to the side, non-obstructive and well sized. The only issue I have with it, is that the front closet is up a quarter-level.

    I also quite like the Tuscany in Enclave at the Riverwalk, again by Ashton Woords Homes.
    http://www.ashtonwoodshomes.com/modelDetail.php?ID=8699&PlanID=2013&communityID=434&parentCity=2&rep_emial=

    The entry is well sized for the home. In this layout I like the covered porch and the separate foyer, with a closet just off of it.

    Here is an example of a poorly designed entry, it’s a shame because the architecture of the unit is stunning, and boasts many nice/unique features. In the Beauregard in Avignon at Vinings, the entry enters directly into the formal dining area (on the second floor). In addition to potentially interfering with dining, the space blurs into the living area, making for a poorly defined entry. Furthermore, the closet is located in an awkward location.

    http://www.avignonatvinings.com/downloads/avignon_beauregard.pdf

  • Dan M

    http://www.montehewetthomes.com/uploads/pdfs/Mansfield_townhome_FLP.pdf
    the mansfield that nicole scored 7
    the entry is too long and leads to a confusing plce, i almost missed the closet…

    http://www.pulte.com/communities/ga/atlanta/views-of-lennox-crossing/plans/providence-3.aspx
    the providence 3 franco scored 19/20
    entry here is not too bad, certainly one of the better ones. closet is accessible and an entry vestibule is present.

  • Dan M

    for some reason my post wouldn’t post (says it did but didn’t)

  • Dan M

    try it again

    http://www.montehewetthomes.com/uploads/pdfs/Mansfield_townhome_FLP.pdf
    the mansfield that nicole scored 7
    the entry is too long and leads to a confusing plce, i almost missed the closet…

    http://www.pulte.com/communities/ga/atlanta/views-of-lennox-crossing/plans/providence-3.aspx
    the providence 3 franco scored 19/20
    entry here is not too bad, certainly one of the better ones. closet is accessible and an entry vestibule is present.

  • Dan M

    http://www.montehewetthomes.com/uploads/pdfs/Mansfield_townhome_FLP.pdf
    the mansfield that nicole scored 7
    the entry is too long and leads to a confusing place, i almost missed the closet…

  • Dan M

    http://www.montehewetthomes.com/uploads/pdfs/Mansfield_townhome_FLP.pdf

    the mansfield that nicole scored 7
    the entry is too long and leads to a confusing plce, i almost missed the closet…

    http://www.pulte.com/communities/ga/atlanta/views-of-lennox-crossing/plans/providence-3.aspx

    the providence 3 franco scored 19/20
    entry here is not too bad, certainly one of the better ones. closet is accessible and an entry vestibule is present.

  • Dan M

    trying this again and again

    http://www.montehewetthomes.com/uploads/pdfs/Mansfield_townhome_FLP.pdf
    the mansfield that nicole scored 7
    the entry is too long and leads to a confusing plce, i almost missed the closet…

    http://www.pulte.com/communities/ga/atlanta/views-of-lennox-crossing/plans/providence-3.aspx
    the providence 3 franco scored 19/20
    entry here is not too bad, certainly one of the better ones. closet is accessible and an entry vestibule is present.

  • Dan M

    it won’t let me post, says duplicate but not that i can see…

    http://www.montehewetthomes.com/uploads/pdfs/Mansfield_townhome_FLP.pdf
    the mansfield that nicole scored 7
    the entry is too long and leads to a confusing plce, i almost missed the closet…

    http://www.pulte.com/communities/ga/atlanta/views-of-lennox-crossing/plans/providence-3.aspx
    the providence 3 franco scored 19/20
    entry here is not too bad, certainly one of the better ones. closet is accessible and an entry vestibule is present.

  • Dan M

    still can’t post…

  • Dan M

    http://www.montehewetthomes.com/uploads/pdfs/Mansfield_townhome_FLP.pdf
    the mansfield that nicole scored 7
    the entry is too long and leads to a confusing plce, i almost missed the closet…

  • Dan M

    the mansfield that nicole scored 7
    the entry is too long and leads to a confusing plce, i almost missed the closet…
    http://www.montehewetthomes.com/uploads/pdfs/Mansfield_townhome_FLP.pdf

    the providence 3 franco scored 19/20
    entry here is not too bad, certainly one of the better ones. closet is accessible and an entry vestibule is present.
    http://www.pulte.com/communities/ga/atlanta/views-of-lennox-crossing/plans/providence-3.aspx

  • Dan M

    trying it w/o links

    the mansfield that nicole scored 7
    the entry is too long and leads to a confusing plce, i almost missed the closet…

    the providence 3 franco scored 19/20
    entry here is not too bad, certainly one of the better ones. closet is accessible and an entry vestibule is present.

  • Dan M
  • Dan M

    [img]providence.jpg[/img][img]mansfieldtownhomeflp.jpg[/img]

    here are pictures of the floor plans for the above (hopefully this works)

  • Joshua

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    This entry has potential, but currently other than the fact that they have made it so the door from the outside entry does not hit the door to the garage entry. A closet of some sort is what is missing. Maybe if the garage wall was moved back in a foot, there would be enough room for a simple closet. The space it self is however larger than many entries.

  • Grace Coulter

    Joshua,

    I think the problem with the entrance is it is really a hallway. I think your right about moving the wall back. If the garage was a single car instead of a double you could start to try and create some space.

  • Steve in Van

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    Here are two examples of “upscale” townhomes at Candler Grove in Decatur (entry level only). I love that they call the entry corridor–barely wide enough for one person–the “foyer”!

    How would a resident of the Charleston welcome a guest? After opening the door, you’d lead the guest upstairs to the kitchen, then go back downstairs to close the door. Meanwhile the guest could find the secret hallway to the coat closet and powderroom. A veritable fun house!

  • Grace Coulter

    http://www.elementatlanta.com/pdf/A8.pdf

    I pulled this entry from one Andrew posted.
    Its a bit strange because it has all the elements of an entry but I am not sure I like it because of the angles. I think it would qualify as a decent entrance and these are just my personal tastes but does anyone else have a comment or see something I am missing ??

  • Tara

    As I look at some of these entries, I’m reminded of toilet stalls – you know, the ones that you have to try to bend yourself around the space in order to get in and close the door behind you? Not a good thing to be compared to.

    Here’s one a found that isn’t so bad. This floorplan acctually shows the main floors of two attached units. Both of the entries work and they have a combined entry space for the front and garage entries. They both have a little bit of a long corridor though for ciruclation in and around the stairs.
    http://www.brunningandstang.com/floorplans/show/60

  • Jamie L

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    I think this is a good main floor entry. The large foyer and the access to the library and on the other side to the living room, although I dont see the closet, there is enough room to greet guests and it is efficient that it is also combined with the powder room.

  • JPod

    http://www.ashtonwoodshomes.com/modelDetail.php?ID=8695&PlanID=2011&communityID=434&parentCity=2&rep_emial=

    This entry space is terrible! I had a hard time finding any town homes that had a good entry space. There is no closet, and you walk right into the stairs going both up and down. The entry in this floor plan is basically a landing between the top floor and basement.

  • Jamie L

    [img]315rowanfloorplan.jpg[/img]

    Found another good entry in one-bedroom apartment. It has closet and the access to the bedroom and laundry and it also gives privacy to the living space

  • Jamie L

    [img]villagesatcarvertuskegee.jpg[/img]

    This is a badly designed main floor entry. The entry opening directly into the living room which is really bad.

  • ReneP

    Grace Coulter, in my opinion, the door conflicts are the only thing keeping this entry from being slow design. Yet I am afraid the ‘element Atlanta’is a condominuim building; so this is an apartment entry and not a townhouse.

    Tara, I like the toilet stall analogy. Very good!

    Poor entries aplenty in Atlanta townhomes though… Here is just one:
    M West II: M1 (16/20 originally reviewed by Preston)
    http://www.mwesthomes.com/m1.pdf
    Long hall followed by long haul up the stairs into the principle living areas.

    Here is a decent one though:
    Inman Park Village – Unit Type A-1 (16/20 reviewed by Alejandro)
    http://www.inmanparkinfo.com/child/floorplans/ivplan_a.pdf
    The coat closet and guest bath are only a few steps up the stairs away. Given the long/narrow constraints inherent in townhomes, this one is ‘ok’.

  • Andrew

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    This is certainly an example of a poor townhouse entry. The front door is accessed at the 2nd level after climbing a set of exterior stairs and after entering the house you are immediately introduced to another set of stairs in order to get to the principal spaces on this floor. This entrance is also quite cramped and there is no closet or storage near the front door.

  • Andrew

    And I seem to have posted to same floor plan as Rene. I would agree with you, Rene, that the entry you posted is decent (especially for a townhouse) but the entry you have described is actually the back entrance that is accessed through the garage, which is located in the rear of the house. While this entrance is acceptable, I still think the front entrance in this house is really quite bad.

  • Mid America Mom

    :) In my past I posted about good entry design. It starts on the outside and moves in….

    Today I will not rehash that piece but bring up two points. 1. An entry should be able to handle at least three people comfortably. The host and 2 guests. 2. As John has stated in the past, but this is my reflection, a guest should not be forced to use stairs when they enter the home. Avoid the entry onto a landing or entry that ends with just a stair to another level.

    ***********
    Here is a front entry that has no closet and forces you to take stairs – http://www.redoakhome.com/sub-ch-montclair.htm

    A decent shared entry with 1/2 bath off of it- http://www.johnthomashomes.net/uploads/1279Crescent%20Floorplan.jpg

    Mid America Mom

  • Tayler

    Here is a good example of an entry that works to a certain extent. Labeled as Foyer it has sufficient space, but a small closet considering the space:

    http://www.touchstonehomes.com/HomePlanDetails.aspx?planid=82&atab=2

    Really do not like this one: Open the door and wham! their are the stairs. Seems cramped and if you were seeing company out you would definitely be standing on the stairs. Also where is the closet? On an unrelated note, I love the contemporary look of the exterior!
    http://www.mwesthomes.com/fp_m5.html

  • frazer

    [img]entry.gif[/img]

    here’s a good entry. its the Ashby from a development called The Commons. Notice how enough space is allotted for circulation.

    http://www.brockbuilt.com/floorplans/theashby.pdf

  • ReneP

    Andrew – Sorry for the apparent confusion, but I actually was describing the front entrance – 8 stairs up to the front door – and 8 stair steps up to the landing of the principle living areas (i.e. second floor) where there is the coat closet and guest bath off to the left. A few issues I agree with – the stairs continuing up to the top floor, and there is really no space for people to congregate right in front of the entry the stairs are wider than the staircase leading further up and thus not as constricting. I guess we have to agree to disagree (such a hard time finding a good entry – I guess that perhaps it left me willing to settle for less – so I managed, after more rummaging, to find the Ashby at the Commons- roomy entry with a closet! Link: http://www.brockbuilt.com/floorplans/theashby.pdf )

  • ReneP

    LoL – Frazer already beat me to the Ashby…

  • Kyle B

    http://www.scenesofsera.com/pdf/Phippsfp.pdf
    Here is my bad example first. There really is no entry here to be spoken of, just an exterior door. Wait, maybe that’s a coat closet by the stairs on the other side of the living room! Too late, all is lost.

    http://www.bowenfamilyhomes.com/find-new-home#atlanta-ga|homedesign|246
    Here is a refreshingly good entry. This was difficult to find! I think it is nearly impossible to include a decent entry into townhouses with two car garages. Good space here, coat closet, hallway from entry shares garage entry and powder room. Much like the first example that Matthew shared.